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Takeaway: A proposal to outlaw file-swapping networks receives warm welcome in Senate. Backers claim that iPods will stay off ban list.

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By Declan McCullagh
CNET News.com

The chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary said Thursday that a ban on file-trading networks is urgently required but agreed to work with tech companies concerned that devices like Apple Computer's iPod would be imperiled.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said he intended to move ahead with the highly controversial Induce Act despite objections from dozens of Internet providers and Silicon Valley manufacturers. The Induce Act says "whoever intentionally induces any violation" of copyright law would be legally liable for those violations.

Hatch added, however, that he welcomed comments from critics. "If you help us, we just might get it right," he said. "If you don't, we're going to do it. Something has to be done. There's no way to solve these problems so everyone's totally pleased."

The Induce Act, which enjoys broad support in the music industry and from a handful of software companies, is designed to overturn an April 2003 ruling from a California judge that said StreamCast Networks, which distributes Morpheus, and Grokster were not liable for copyright infringements that took place using their software. Critics of the bill warn that it could make hardware makers like Apple and Toshiba--and even journalists--liable for products and reviews that could "induce" the public to violate copyright law.

Vermont's Patrick Leahy, the top Democrat on the panel, echoed Hatch's comments. "Nobody wants to undermine the iPod or any other piece of technology out there," he said. "We have to understand that some people use P2P technology in ways that are wrong and illegal."


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The Business Software Alliance, which counts as members Microsoft, Apple and Adobe Systems, initially applauded the Induce Act in a favorable statement last month that called it a "reasonable balance between antipiracy and technological innovation."

But by the time Thursday's hearing took place, BSA President Robert Holleyman had become far more tepid in his appraisal of the bill. Holleyman testified that the measure would be acceptable only if it were rewritten "to ensure that only bad actors are found liable."

Gary Shapiro, president of the Consumer Electronics Association, suggested that the Senate wait for the courts to figure out which file-swapping networks are legal. "Right now, I don't think legislation is necessary, because the harm is greater than any benefit that may be derived," he said.

More than 40 trade associations and advocacy groups voiced similar sentiments in a letter to senators July 6. The Induce Act "would chill innovation and drive investment in technology" overseas, said the letter, signed by CNET Networks, eBay, Google, Intel, MCI, TiVo, Verizon Communications, Sun Microsystems and Yahoo. CNET Networks is the publisher of News.com.

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Senator wants to ban P2P networksNewsletter Editor Techrepublic | 07/23/04
Dampening Internet UseDemonking  | 07/23/04
oh boydoogal123  | 07/23/04
There is no need for a new lawComputerPerceptions.com  | 07/23/04
So Truematthewdelaney@...  | 07/24/04
Much ado about...alki2@...  | 07/24/04
why dont we just shut down the internet toomyndebox@...  | 07/23/04
Exactly.Larry the Security Guy  | 07/23/04
HA!!BloodyUsername!!  | 07/24/04
Damn Straight!jasonhaeckel@...  | 07/23/04
Touchy Subjectmatthewdelaney@...  | 07/24/04
Governments and rights??BloodyUsername!!  | 07/24/04
Political Parasitesmpadilla@...  | 07/24/04
Anti-American????????tundra0  | 08/03/04
Stupidiflyaklejo@...  | 07/23/04
How broad is it?Bill P.  | 07/23/04
It's VERY BroadTheWebdude@...  | 07/23/04
Another Nail in Innovation's Crosssrosborn@...  | 07/23/04
Short and very 'General'Dilbert-Tom  | 07/26/04
Confusing the Issues...Once Again...info@...  | 07/23/04
Totally IlogicalAndyC@...  | 07/23/04
Hatch is a puppetmyndebox@...  | 07/23/04
puppet = idiotlat18@...  | 07/23/04
Idiot = ID 10 T ErrorDumbUser  | 07/29/04
Knee-Jerk...Tony Michener  | 07/23/04
Unconstitutional!jimmied43  | 07/23/04
only in the USA... :(ballroomdancer  | 07/23/04
Already to much meddleing.lghkenbarb@...  | 07/23/04
and while they are banning p2p...wildcard  | 07/23/04
congratwaldoie  | 07/23/04
Don't give the idiots any ideas!!BloodyUsername!!  | 07/24/04
Arrest Thomas Edison!!!dldigital  | 07/23/04
Amazing!mph@...  | 07/23/04
I do know what you mean -- but still think the bill is wrongLlewellyn_ap_Gryffyth  | 07/23/04
Exceptional - Let's Make It Happen!jswilson@...  | 07/23/04
It's an advertising campaign -- piracy=body odor or smokingLlewellyn_ap_Gryffyth  | 07/23/04
Now THAT would be a great commercialmph@...  | 07/23/04
Who should be liable for what...Dilbert-Tom  | 07/26/04
The law is wrongIT Security Guy  | 07/26/04
WAY Amazing Here!!!jswilson@...  | 07/23/04
Yeah, I bet you ARE amazing, aren't you?...mph@...  | 07/23/04
The best response to your statement, and that's how you reply?BloodyUsername!!  | 07/24/04
Best response?!?mph@...  | 07/26/04
What he said was...BloodyUsername!!  | 07/31/04
Troll!nighthawk808  | 07/24/04
Look more carefully at your reasoningMurpur  | 07/25/04
Severely Limit Copyright and Patent Timessrosborn@...  | 07/25/04
The clue is self-creatingmgordon@...  | 07/26/04
Very Good Post! (NT)Redcell  | 07/27/04
re:Amazing!Redcell  | 07/27/04
Hatch Needs To Go Back To The Mountainslynnepacker@...  | 07/23/04
Swap of freedom?Myron_s  | 07/23/04
Duh...Nilo8  | 07/23/04
How bout if we ban Senator'sbpist  | 07/23/04
Dear Senator Hatch…glrudd  | 07/23/04
Republican or Democrat what's the diffbpist  | 07/23/04
Typical Government thinkingdirtyratjim@...  | 07/23/04
Just another way of justifing there jobsronald@...  | 07/23/04
Definitely shut down P2P networksjf555@...  | 07/23/04
Fascist!BloodyUsername!!  | 07/24/04
Minor correctionjsulliv8@...  | 07/25/04
No offence taken...BloodyUsername!!  | 07/31/04
Huh?jsulliv8@...  | 07/25/04
LOLRedcell  | 07/27/04
Lobbies and big businesslat18@...  | 07/23/04
Priorities, priorities!keithworfolk@...  | 07/23/04
why doesn't he shut his trapsramrakhiani@...  | 07/23/04
Drugsrunner.17@...  | 07/23/04
ProhibitionSilverknife  | 07/23/04
Exposure more important than CopyRightUrnst  | 07/23/04
Good point, that is correctMurpur  | 07/26/04
I Love it!!!JvdReyden  | 07/24/04
What people do not stop think about . . .a.techno.geek  | 07/25/04
Don't we wish things were so simple.Murpur  | 07/26/04
US no longer a free market economyTheChas  | 07/25/04
Sure we are...jsulliv8@...  | 07/25/04
Ban the Senatordkeggins@...  | 07/26/04
well let's pack our bags and go!husp1@...  | 07/26/04
When do we Extend "Inducements"?gigabob@...  | 07/26/04
Not even comic in light of the facts.Murpur  | 07/26/04
Must be an election yearND_IT  | 07/26/04
Protecting Ones Ownwjstroup@...  | 07/26/04
OK since no one's else mentioned itUnder the same reasoningHAL 9000  | 07/27/04
Orin Hatch wants to sell his tunes.mnpicker@...  | 07/27/04
allow it to evolve!Z0RR0  | 07/27/04
Won't hold up in courtGarion11  | 07/27/04
Another way of avoiding the real issues.stormyfyre@...  | 07/28/04
Most likely becauseHAL 9000  | 07/29/04
I think we should ban all Senators....The Admiral  | 07/29/04
Just Say No to the "Induce Act"paulj01@...  | 08/02/04
Orrin Hatch...NeoGeek  | 08/16/04
Strange bedfellowsCometSr  | 07/23/04
Is it just me?rmchugh@...  | 07/23/04
trample on the constitution again, PLEASEcds02011949@...  | 07/23/04
Complaining is fine, but . . .krussell  | 07/23/04
Electronic Frontier FoundationMark W. Kaelin Techrepublic | 07/23/04
I surely will follow thru. Here is the addressCometSr  | 07/23/04
Let's just ban all misuseable technologies (NOT)Llewellyn_ap_Gryffyth  | 07/23/04
Come visit Australia sometime, we've banned pre...Murpur  | 07/27/04
But the really IDIOT thing isHAL 9000  | 07/27/04
True enough...Murpur  | 07/28/04
The only trouble thereHAL 9000  | 07/28/04
You positive? Or are dogs politicians too?Murpur  | 07/29/04
It just goes to show how wellHAL 9000  | 07/29/04
One example that comes to mindHAL 9000  | 07/29/04
Heh, and I thought my family were the only ones.Murpur  | 07/29/04
Music/file piracyFinite_SA  | 07/23/04
So much for "Land of the Free!!"marko190@...  | 07/23/04
NAHAL 9000  | 07/23/04
Human naturejohnsonglenn@...  | 07/25/04
Yes but rememberHAL 9000  | 07/26/04
P2P hysteria blown all out of proportionSilverknife  | 07/26/04
Absolutely correctHAL 9000  | 07/27/04
re:Absolutely correctRedcell  | 07/27/04
Some doSilverknife  | 07/28/04
30 seconds is not always useful.Murpur  | 07/29/04
Just as an aside to the aboveHAL 9000  | 07/30/04
Shake Down...Dilbert-Tom  | 07/26/04
companies do need p2pnovellguy_2000  | 07/26/04
Why Bothersmokey1161@...  | 04/06/07

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